goose
1:23 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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comma, the Basque people are 100% pro-independence from Spain (and France).
probably why they have ETA.
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,
12:23 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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The people in Euskal Herria, aka Basque Country, are by a majority content to be part of greater Spain whilst at the same time enjoying their regional political autonomy, enabling them to keep their language and culture alive.
By comparison with the Basques the Catalans certainly Spanish having a language which is effectively a dialect of Castilian Spanish and a DNA which is indistinguishable from the rest of Spain and significantly different to the true Basque.
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bruuuno
11:48 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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Funny how the English prop up the rest of the country (particularly wales) yet they’re the cunts always moaning about independence from us!
Maybe the English should take a lead out the Catalans book
Oh and shut up hairy, you tit
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Darby_
11:29 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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Catalans might be ungrateful, but they have their own nationality and language and should at least have the right to a referendum; same as the Scots, Welsh, Quebecois, or English for that matter.
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goose
11:01 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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Basque region wants independence from Madrid as well. its nothing to do with wanting it all, its about a region that wants to govern itself and not prop up other parts of the country.
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HairyHammer
5:14 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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They already have some autonomy, they are taking the mick in my opinion . What is it that they want ? they want it all, well don't we all.
Once you start burning down the house from within your going to get burnt.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:26 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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'As , said. It was an illegal vote. They should have gone about things the right way and I'm not saying it would be easy.'
'some shit about it being hicks that voted Leave'
Anyone spot a similarity to the Remain argument there?
It was all rigged, it's not fair, nobody knew how difficult it would be, the leaders of the Leavers were all crooks and anyway, everyone who voted the wrong way is thick.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:19 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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Holstebro Hammer 10:49 Tue Oct 15
'They got done for misuse of public funds.'
What, precisely was this misuse of public funds?
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Mad Dog
12:10 Wed Oct 16
Re: Catalan referendum
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If they vote to leave Spain, how do we know that the catalans will know exactly what they are voting for?
Will there be some long drawn out process of negotiation that the ones that want to stay with Spain will use to their advantage?
Etc
This is the whole boaty mcboatface voting scandal all over again
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Holstebro Hammer
10:49 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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They got done for misuse of public funds. Not trying to get independence by peaceful means. They are encouraging the damage of the public train system. 100's of flights cancelled or re-routed.
Still less than 50% of the population want independence. And if recent polls are to be believed it's even less than 2 years ago who support it.
They have it better than most people in Spain. The laws of the country regarding other crimes I agree are ridiculously soft sometimes. The prosecutor wanted 25 years so they done well to only get 12-9
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Mex Martillo
9:29 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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Not correct Nagel. Catalonia has a long history going back 1000 years. In recent history it comes from the a fight between Republicans and democracy against fascism and Franco. Catalonia is richer but not from Spanish had outs. Hard work and intelligence got Catalonia rich. Catalan supports a lot of Spain and gets back little. Other parts of Spain have better public health, roads paid for by Catalonia. Spain will not discuss the injustice of public spending. Same as will not discuss the political aspirations of 2M people.
Holstebro, you know anything like evidence that supports you boring cuntish opinions. What evidence is there to support you opinion that trying to get independence by peaceful democratic means is worse that killing a person and so deserves longer prison sentences?
What a CUNT
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Holstebro Hammer
7:33 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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Pretty much spot on Nagal. These are not oppressed people. But people living much better than they ever have.
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Nagel
7:11 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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Can someone point out to me if this is inaccurate:
The main reason that the drive for Catalan independence pushed on in recent years is they're fed up paying for the rest of the country, which is poorer.
The only reason Catalonia is now richer is because ALL of Spain poured money into the regeneration of Barcelona for the 1992 Olympics. Before then it was a shithole that tourists and businesses had no interest in. The number of tourists in Barcelona went from 1.73m in 1990 to 9.07m in 2016.
So now you have the city of Barcelona being rich, thanks to the taxes of all of Spain, and yet it wasn't mainly the city dwellers who voted for independence - it was the hicks from the sticks - the ones who themselves rely on the city for money.
If that is true then those who want independence sound like a bunch of cunts, don't they?
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,
6:52 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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One of the jailed Catalan politicians has said the way out of this is to have a referendum
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riosleftsock
4:58 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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They could avoid all this Spanish on Spanish fighting by creating a EU-wide internal suppression force, that way the young greek unemployed could be conscripted and sent over to give the Catalans a good kicking.
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roltrader
4:49 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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......old people being beaten black and blue for peacefully sitting on the floor. Women and girls being kicked and dragged along by their hair. Spanish cunts need a fcking kicking
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riosleftsock
4:48 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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rol
They've got their work cut out catching up with the frogs; a good few have lost eyes, one lost a hand and a few have been killed. Loads banged up too.
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roltrader
4:46 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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Some poor kid has lost an eye because the cunt police shooting rubber bullets at them.
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Holstebro Hammer
4:46 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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Let me guess, you're the short bloke in the pub.
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riosleftsock
4:43 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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I think the Catalan govt had already tried to send this up to ECHR previously and the ECHR didn't want to touch it.
There is at least one article on self-determination within the ECHR rules.
Putting the law to one side, this is obviously not going to go away.
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goose
4:38 Tue Oct 15
Re: Catalan referendum
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nah you're just trying to be edgy.
truth is you're a cunt.
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